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urdu poetry, arabic analysis, and the mufti’s comments

December 5th, 2004 ahmedre

peace. oh yeah, if you’re looking for the important [time worthy] summary of this blog post, then here it is — “this post is a total waste of time — but best of luck to my friends who are taking finals!”

anyway (for those of you who have time to waste), so one of my friends had this as an away message:

“Pyar huwa ikraar hua hai, pyar se phir kyoon darta hai dil? kehta hai dil, rasta mushkil, pyar ki hai kahaan manzil?”

being the honorary desi i am, and knowing a few urdu words, i tried to make some sense of this. pyar and dil were obvious ones that i already know. arabs will recognize mushkil as short for mushkila (problem), and manzil as home or place a person resides…

ikraar could come from taqreer, so basically as a statement or expression.

the first person i interviewed on this topic was our beloved mufti, sheikh “not-a-mufti” (those who know him, know him hehe, those who don’t, well… i’m protecting the innocent :) ).

and first i asked him about the meaning of ikraar and he said, “i believe it means ‘to utter’ or to say.” — he then asked me, “context?” — and at that time, i didn’t have the full away message (because my friend had come back from away mode) — so i told him that it was gone and that i’d find out. and he said a very beautiful statement in the form of a mathematical expression:

P(away msg is mushy | contains ‘ikraar’) > .9

so anyway, i then proceeded to get the full away message. and i asked our beloved mufti for a translation and he said, “love happened and it has been said, then why is the heart scared of love? the heart says, the path is tough, where does the path of love lead to?”

trying to map it back to the original message, the only thing i was able to notice is that “phir” probably maps onto “fear,” so i guess urdu got some influence from l337 h4x0r talk too (ph34r 7h3 31337 h4x0rs!)

yeah, i just wanted to post. nothing meaningful today, maybe tomorrow. peace out everyone.

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  1. jawwad
    December 6th, 2004 at 00:44 | #1

    42 seconds of my time, lost forever.

  2. aneounimoues
    December 6th, 2004 at 02:33 | #2

    Ahmed is sooo romantic. Now I love you more than ever before, Ahmed. Yo, jawaad, stop hatin and take a hike. Sorry, no love for you today. Try to be nicer next time. It won’t kill you.

  3. sy
    December 6th, 2004 at 03:15 | #3

    arabic analysis, in geek style :P

    thanks for the email :) i was thinking of writing words on my blog too, but you know .. i’m not so fond of everybody coming to look at what i write on public blog until 10 years away .. paranoia :D thats why its just pics. take care …

  4. December 6th, 2004 at 10:41 | #4

    hehe, that’s true
    but i guess i can always go back and laugh at myself 10 years later and be like, “what was i thinking back then?”

    anyone else notice the times on the first three comments? 12;44 am, 2;33 am; and 3;15 am. that means people are studying for finals :) good luck everyone!

  5. aneounimoues
    December 6th, 2004 at 10:42 | #5

    I love people with blogs.

  6. jawwad
    December 6th, 2004 at 16:48 | #6

    actually Ahmed, that means people are commenting on your blog when they should be studying for finals

  7. aneounimoues
    December 6th, 2004 at 19:52 | #7

    I love aneounimoues.

  8. Sajid
    December 7th, 2004 at 09:33 | #8

    Haha, you guys have to study for finals, while me and Ahmed are free from such absurdities.

  9. December 8th, 2004 at 09:01 | #9

    haha, true, but honestly, i sort of wouldn’t mind taking finals… at least i’d get a month off after that :)

  10. Sajid
    December 8th, 2004 at 10:24 | #10

    Yeah, but then you wouldn’t get paid either. :P

  11. Nida
    December 8th, 2004 at 20:32 | #11

    Ahmed I’ve been thinking. Your blog is really ugly and not very attractive. You should do something with it. Really, its hideous. I hate US Foreign Policy. Dr. Kennedy is neo-conservative jerk (double negative). I don’t wanna study :’(

    Someone take my final for me tommorrow. Ahmed your blog is really ugly. Change it. You should become a member of Muslim Blogs…and add other people.

  12. jawwad
    December 8th, 2004 at 21:31 | #12

    Don’t worry Ahmed, I still like your blog.

  13. aneounimoues
    December 8th, 2004 at 21:32 | #13

    Me, too, Ahmed I still love you and your blog.

  14. jawwad
    December 9th, 2004 at 00:51 | #14

    I love finals, they are so awesome. I wish I had finals every single day.

  15. aneounimoues
    December 9th, 2004 at 00:51 | #15

    me too.

  16. jawwad
    December 9th, 2004 at 00:53 | #16

    I especially love the ones in which you go in clueless. That is the time you get to put your creativity to work.

  17. aneounimoues
    December 9th, 2004 at 00:55 | #17

    Yup, I love those kinds. I also like the ones in which you have to study for all night. You can always take a small nap during the final.

  18. jawwad
    December 9th, 2004 at 00:58 | #18

    Yeah, for sure. You have 3 hours. Its always good to take a small nap to get refreshed. Who knows, the answer might come to you in a dream.

  19. aneounimoues
    December 9th, 2004 at 00:59 | #19

    Wow. I love you Jawwad. I apologize for being rude to you before. You are my kind of guy.

  20. jawwad
    December 9th, 2004 at 00:59 | #20

    um…, no, I am not that kind of guy.

  21. aneounimoues
    December 9th, 2004 at 01:01 | #21

    Why not? We should all have love for each other.

  22. jawwad
    December 9th, 2004 at 01:02 | #22

    Yeah, but as nafeez would say, “from a distance”.

  23. aneounimoues
    December 9th, 2004 at 01:03 | #23

    We must not be distant from one another. That will be our downfall. I love you Jawwad. Please tell me that you love me too.

  24. jawwad
    December 9th, 2004 at 01:03 | #24

    Ahmed, can you block this dude. He is making me uncomfortable.

  25. aneounimoues
    December 9th, 2004 at 01:04 | #25

    Ahmed would never do that, he loves me. And I love him too.

  26. jawwad
    December 9th, 2004 at 01:05 | #26

    Great then. You don’t need my love.

  27. aneounimoues
    December 9th, 2004 at 01:06 | #27

    But you don’t understand. I need all the love I can get. I know you love me, you just don’t want to admit it.

  28. muchfitna
    December 9th, 2004 at 01:08 | #28

    the souls of kuffar are empty
    their hearts yearn to be free
    free from the worship of the duniya
    for they worship whatever they find beautiful, ya?
    -ofcourse-
    so,
    being the muslims we are
    must do the opposite of the kuffar
    they worship things of beauty
    warm, fuzzy, and fruity.
    However,
    in our quest of being an opposite pole
    must not forget our moderate position at a whole
    so we take the middle way
    instead of worshipping the ugly night and day
    we merely like the ugly, the dispicable, even if we have to pay

    so i summarize
    (don’t take any of this seriously, or else you can have my good-bye’s)
    in accordance with the outlined principles,
    keep the look of the site, and we shall stay as your disciples
    immitate the kuffar and beautify it
    and your attendance may take a hit

  29. aneounimoues
    December 9th, 2004 at 01:10 | #29

    What now? Don’t have anything to say to that do you. Don’t worry I still love you even though you can’t admit it.

  30. aneounimoues
    December 9th, 2004 at 01:12 | #30

    Hey yo, muchfitna, don’t you see we are having a conversation here. Please don’t be a bone in the kabab. I still love you though.

  31. jawwad
    December 9th, 2004 at 01:12 | #31

    Faisal, you know who this idiot is?

  32. aneounimoues
    December 9th, 2004 at 01:14 | #32

    Of course he does, he loves me.

  33. aneounimoues
    December 9th, 2004 at 01:16 | #33

    But thats only because I’m ugly. Because Faisal loves ugly things and hates beautiful things. But I love beautiful things, that’s why I love Faisal.

  34. aneounimoues
    December 9th, 2004 at 01:18 | #34

    And I love you too.

  35. jawwad
    December 9th, 2004 at 01:18 | #35

    Thanks for the revelation.

  36. aneounimoues
    December 9th, 2004 at 01:20 | #36

    Aww, you thanked me, that was so sweet. I’ll take you thanking me as your indirect expression of love for me.

  37. jawwad
    December 9th, 2004 at 01:20 | #37

    Don’t you have any work to do?

  38. aneounimoues
    December 9th, 2004 at 01:20 | #38

    Don’t you?

  39. Anonymous
    December 9th, 2004 at 01:22 | #39

    ouch.

  40. jawwad
    December 9th, 2004 at 01:22 | #40

    Yeah, good point. Im outta here. You can stay here and waste your time. Bye. (Yeah, I said bye, that indirectly means that I love you)

  41. aneounimoues
    December 9th, 2004 at 01:23 | #41

    I knew you would admit it!

  42. aneounimoues
    December 9th, 2004 at 01:24 | #42

    Excuse me Mr/Mrs.Anonymous, I am the only aneounimoues one here. Please reveal yourself.

  43. aneounimoues
    December 9th, 2004 at 01:24 | #43

    I’ll still love you even if you don’t. I don’t discriminate.

  44. aneounimoues
    December 9th, 2004 at 01:25 | #44

    I know you wanna be just like me.

  45. Anonymous
    December 9th, 2004 at 01:25 | #45

    thanks buddy.

  46. aneounimoues
    December 9th, 2004 at 01:26 | #46

    But its ok, I love wannabees too.

  47. aneounimoues
    December 9th, 2004 at 01:29 | #47

    You wannabee lover.

  48. Anonymous
    December 9th, 2004 at 01:30 | #48

    yeah, i love that species of bees.

  49. aneounimoues
    December 9th, 2004 at 01:34 | #49

    no, i mean wanna be like a person that wants to be, an imitator, a mocker, a copy cat, a want to be. You are a want to be.

  50. aneounimoues
    December 9th, 2004 at 01:35 | #50

    And you want to be just like me because I am the coolest, and I have much love to spread, and wont the real aneounimoues please stand up, yes, let me stand up right now. I am standing now. I am the real aneounimoues.

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