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urdu poetry, arabic analysis, and the mufti’s comments

December 5th, 2004

peace. oh yeah, if you’re looking for the important [time worthy] summary of this blog post, then here it is — “this post is a total waste of time — but best of luck to my friends who are taking finals!”

anyway (for those of you who have time to waste), so one of my friends had this as an away message:

“Pyar huwa ikraar hua hai, pyar se phir kyoon darta hai dil? kehta hai dil, rasta mushkil, pyar ki hai kahaan manzil?”

being the honorary desi i am, and knowing a few urdu words, i tried to make some sense of this. pyar and dil were obvious ones that i already know. arabs will recognize mushkil as short for mushkila (problem), and manzil as home or place a person resides…

ikraar could come from taqreer, so basically as a statement or expression.

the first person i interviewed on this topic was our beloved mufti, sheikh “not-a-mufti” (those who know him, know him hehe, those who don’t, well… i’m protecting the innocent :) ).

and first i asked him about the meaning of ikraar and he said, “i believe it means ‘to utter’ or to say.” — he then asked me, “context?” — and at that time, i didn’t have the full away message (because my friend had come back from away mode) — so i told him that it was gone and that i’d find out. and he said a very beautiful statement in the form of a mathematical expression:

P(away msg is mushy | contains ‘ikraar’) > .9

so anyway, i then proceeded to get the full away message. and i asked our beloved mufti for a translation and he said, “love happened and it has been said, then why is the heart scared of love? the heart says, the path is tough, where does the path of love lead to?”

trying to map it back to the original message, the only thing i was able to notice is that “phir” probably maps onto “fear,” so i guess urdu got some influence from l337 h4x0r talk too (ph34r 7h3 31337 h4x0rs!)

yeah, i just wanted to post. nothing meaningful today, maybe tomorrow. peace out everyone.

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  1. jawwad
    December 12th, 2004 at 23:57 | #1

    Time’s up buddy.

  2. aneounimoues
    December 12th, 2004 at 23:58 | #2

    Thats what you think.

  3. jawwad
    December 12th, 2004 at 23:58 | #3

    I suggest you quit the act.

  4. aneounimoues
    December 12th, 2004 at 23:59 | #4

    Who says im actin? Don’t you have to go and do something?

  5. jawwad
    December 12th, 2004 at 23:59 | #5

    Yeah, I do. But you keep on wasting my time. You don’t let me get any work done.

  6. aneounimoues
    December 13th, 2004 at 00:00 | #6

    Don’t blame your shit on me. Im only here spreadin the love. If you wanna spread hate you can do it elsewhere.

  7. aneounimoues
    December 13th, 2004 at 00:01 | #7

    I still love you though.

  8. aneounimoues
    December 13th, 2004 at 00:02 | #8

    not because you are anything special, just because i dont discriminate.

  9. jawwad
    December 13th, 2004 at 00:04 | #9

    Thanks for spreadin the love. We appreciate it. I think all of us have had enough love for now.

  10. aneounimoues
    December 13th, 2004 at 00:05 | #10

    I still have a lot more love to spread. I was only getting started.

  11. jawwad
    December 13th, 2004 at 00:06 | #11

    Could there be a bigger idiot than you?

  12. aneounimoues
    December 13th, 2004 at 00:06 | #12

    Yeah. Could be you.

  13. jawwad
    December 13th, 2004 at 00:07 | #13

    So you admit it?

  14. aneounimoues
    December 13th, 2004 at 00:07 | #14

    Admit what. I didn’t admit anything. I think you have had enough love. You should go now and come back next week for more love.

  15. jawwad
    December 13th, 2004 at 00:08 | #15

    Everyone had had enough. Perhaps you should leave.

  16. jawwad
    December 13th, 2004 at 00:09 | #16

    But don’t worry. You don’t have to come back next week.

  17. aneounimoues
    December 13th, 2004 at 00:11 | #17

    yea you right. but i aint gotta leave either

  18. jawwad
    December 13th, 2004 at 00:12 | #18

    Nida was right, you are a loser.

    Loser.

  19. aneounimoues
    December 13th, 2004 at 00:12 | #19

    I know you are but what am I?

    Loser.

  20. jawwad
    December 13th, 2004 at 00:14 | #20

    I guess you are right. I am a loser for falling into your trap. The only solution is to ignore you. Good luck with spreading the love.

  21. aneounimoues
    December 13th, 2004 at 00:15 | #21

    awww youre gonna ignore me? but we were just getting to know each other.

  22. aneounimoues
    December 13th, 2004 at 00:15 | #22

    i apologize, you ungrateful loser. please forgive me

  23. aneounimoues
    December 13th, 2004 at 00:17 | #23

    i forgive you. can you find it in your heart to forgive me?

  24. aneounimoues
    December 13th, 2004 at 00:19 | #24

    I’ll take that as a yes. Because if the larki doesn’t say no that means that she agrees. Using the same argument, Im glad that you forgive me.

  25. aneounimoues
    December 13th, 2004 at 00:20 | #25

    thanks jawwad. I love you too.

  26. aneounimoues
    December 13th, 2004 at 00:20 | #26

    176 comments, that must be a new record.

  27. aneounimoues
    December 13th, 2004 at 00:20 | #27

    oh now its 177.

  28. aneounimoues
    December 13th, 2004 at 00:21 | #28

    dang, 178 now.

  29. aneounimoues
    December 13th, 2004 at 00:22 | #29

    doh! ok i know whats happening. 180 now.

  30. aneounimoues
    December 13th, 2004 at 00:22 | #30

    whoohooo! I am the man!

  31. aneounimoues
    December 13th, 2004 at 00:22 | #31

    or woman. who knows.

  32. aneounimoues
    December 13th, 2004 at 00:24 | #32

    I mean of course I know, but who else knows

  33. aneounimoues
    December 13th, 2004 at 00:26 | #33

    only 17 more comments left till 200.

  34. aneounimoues
    December 13th, 2004 at 00:26 | #34

    doh! 15 left.

  35. jawwad
    December 13th, 2004 at 00:27 | #35

    Ahmed, you should block his IP or something.

  36. aneounimoues
    December 13th, 2004 at 00:27 | #36

    oh, youre back! I knew you’d be back. I missed you.

  37. aneounimoues
    December 13th, 2004 at 00:28 | #37

    but you dont have to admit it. I know you missed me too.

  38. aneounimoues
    December 13th, 2004 at 00:30 | #38

    I think Ahmed should block your IP. Its only for your own good.

  39. jawwad
    December 13th, 2004 at 00:32 | #39

    Why don’t you and me meet and settle this elsewhere?

  40. aneounimoues
    December 13th, 2004 at 00:33 | #40

    Me and you! Awww, how romantic. Great its a date. Are you free tomorrow night?

  41. aneounimoues
    December 13th, 2004 at 00:34 | #41

    If not then just let me know when. I can always make time for you.

  42. aneounimoues
    December 13th, 2004 at 00:37 | #42

    you sexy hunk of a man

  43. aneounimoues
    December 13th, 2004 at 00:37 | #43

    oh whoops, didn’t mean to say that here

  44. aneounimoues
    December 13th, 2004 at 00:39 | #44

    so let me know what time. if youre so sure of who i am you must have my number. just call me. if not give me your number and i’ll call you.

  45. aneounimoues
    December 13th, 2004 at 00:39 | #45

    I think I have mental problems.

  46. aneounimoues
    December 13th, 2004 at 00:40 | #46

    can anyone cure me?

  47. aneounimoues
    December 13th, 2004 at 00:41 | #47

    someone must have some hope for me? anyone?

  48. aneounimoues
    December 13th, 2004 at 00:41 | #48

    anyone?

  49. muchfitna
    December 13th, 2004 at 00:42 | #49

    el-helu.
    1. Create user accounts.
    2. Seperate comments sections for men and girls.
    3. Sit back and watch the fitna go away.

  50. aneounimoues
    December 13th, 2004 at 00:43 | #50

    its el-helw not helu.

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